Well this discussion had to include me as the lead person responsible to make it blog-cum-debate (did I hear GD :P). Continuing with what was till now
( If u haven't read the previous ones here are the links
1. I AM A NC-OBC
2. I am a general Candidate
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I think what the sole purpose of the reservation for the SCs, STs n in the mean time OBCs is to make them aware of what is now available to them. Awareness is important. Just to answer the questions or the answers as I thought-- came up with more questions
- How many lower income groups (mainly villages or small town) aspire their child to be an IITian or IIMian for the sake of it? Actually tell me how many of these parents atleast know about that these premium education institutes exist for sake of it. How can they make them go for it? For them reservation in these means Nothing more than “sort of nothing”.
- How many students have failed to take admission in these premium institutes due to financial problems? Well guess what it was never the problem of money. And everybody knows one cashes in much more than what you have invested.
Giving reservation on the basis of caste at least generate awareness among those groups that “falna ka ladka wahaan padh rha hai”, this group at least gets ready to accept the change for their children. Look beyond what they ever thought.
Talking of my example after just giving my 10th boards, I came to know about these terms IITs, JEE, AIEEE, etc (forget MBA, IIMs or CAT or any other). (I knew engineering bcoz in childhood I thought its really cool to an engineer … ain’t I :P). I was the first in my paternal family(My father is 6 brothers) to ever do Engineering. Yes I was lucky in that respect to that my father from very early stressed on my education (no matter what). Now since I am well aware of these things, and how to go with them, my uncles, cousins find me as the one who knows how to take these on and advise on it. My sister who has just given her 10th board examination is worried about whether she should go for engineering or MBA, knowing about both of them. Silly girl tells me u were lucky -no such things to think of.
And if this is the case with me who hails from small town Giridih from a middle class well to do family, Think of the other backward regions and other class of society.
But after saying these all, I think Reservation just should be a Temporary settlement.
p.s. after a loooooong loooooooong time, I have written something on the blog, see how lazy I am :P
4 comments:
As I wrote in my post itself that my brother didn't knew about IIT before class 10th leave alone my parents knowing about it but he got into it without any "pauwa". He could make it because of awareness in my family that hard work and good education pays off irrespective of whether one belongs to metro or village. Now for some this kind of awareness does the magic and for the rest the kind of awareness you have talked about does. Now even if someone belongs to such lower income group of villages then two things are possible:-
1)Either the person will not go far enough and has to drop from school by class 10th to support his family or
2)He would give his best effort because he knows the value of hard work and the value of the one time opportunity and would score good enough and get admission even if there was no reservation.Take the eg. of Manda, Ranjeet, Patidar.
Hence the people who actually use reservation are those who because of the AWARENESS part are well aware that there is something like VIP pass which will get them a back door entry and hence they are complacent enough to even give their best effort.Suppose a person gets 95%ile in CAT. Did he not join test series or did he not have study material? Had he to work in fields in the extra time?
Where did he lack as to not get 99%ile? May be he belonged to reserved category so he was generally depressed because of all the years of exploitation of his caste, was suffering from insomnia because of this added pressure, was on drugs to control it and even then he got 95%ile. Voila!!
What he lacked was effort and what he had was awareness. :P
Since past 10 years at least no one would have failed to take admission in a premier institute because of financial problems thanks to scholarships and loans.
The people from such backward regions who make it to these portals are at max 1% among all the people who take the advantage of reservations. Take your case. You had no calls this year at a good %ile but a batchmate of ours had all the calls at 99.4X %ile and he belongs to OBC category.
How does it sound?
Now there are two ways to tackle this either choose a level play and wish there was no reservation or get a reservation for oneself and feel "ALL IZ WELL". I made my choice, lets see about the rest.
Well,it was why it should not be on the money basis as commented by ranjeet.
As for this, I never undermined that hard work n time management are important, but without a good direction, many times it is of no use.
Talking by examples, don't u think Ranjeet was better off doing graduate from any other stream wasting an year in the preparation for engineering exams, and then an extra year in B.Tech which he even doesn't relishes.
and yes I agree with the point that Reservation are Sometimes Mostly used by those who just want an easy way out (or in this case IN :P)...
You have misunderstood what Ranjeet had said. He meant that instead of providing reservation the government should provide financial help so that a reserved category guy doesn't have to cry that he didn't get facilities all his life and so should get reservation. It is more about level play once someone has money then the decades old exploitation is compensated as a family can provide world class facilities to his child. :P
Don't you think you should have done graduation from a different stream as you are also trying for MBA? What one does in life is to choose the best among all the available options. At that time engg. was best, now it is MBA, later may be something else. If one makes a choice in present thinking about where he will be 3-4 years from now then his days would pass away only thinking and doing nothing.
@abhishek sharma
I would like to first address your concern about the least aware OBCs. So, as per you at max 1% of them get the fruits of reservation provided to OBCs. As you say it's flawed, how do you suggest to make sure that only the least aware OBCs receive the benefits of reservation? I would tell you what's not wrong if the most aware OBCs avail the reservation.
How do you think people of higher castes gained their position in the society? The reason is if one's educated he wouldn't let his cousin do menial works in his hometown. He would say 'Come here! I'll make sure you get a job!' And thus education spreads and betters them. The same applies here, if a most aware OBC studies from IITs, IIMs, gets a civil post or govt. job or just a good job; he knows the value of education and he would not let his least aware OBC cousin to stay back at hometown and do some menial job. This way the reservation ensures that the least aware OBCs get their fair share. Yes, it is a time taking process, it takes generations to have a well educated community. But it will. The centuries old caste system cannot be erased just like that.
Let me take your sarcastic remark on 95%ile. It's not because of those hypocratic reasons you've quoted. A well aware OBC student preparing for CAT/JEE doesn't have the liberty to attempt his exam without any responsibilities on him. An upper caste well educated settled family gives all the backing to their kid needed to attempt competitive exams starting from top coaching institute admissions to a seperate room with all the facilities needed. More importantly, the kid doesn't have to fear about what if I fail the exam? Even if failed, the kid gets the pat on the back, what's the rush? give another attempt, it's not as if you've to support us. I've a classic example of a colleague of mine who gave GMAT and scored low. He belong to an upper caste, his father is DSP. He gave another GMAT attempt scored little better. Gave another GMAT attempt and finally scored good score. Now he is trying for foreign MBA. Forget about foreign MBA, I can't even think of attempting GMAT three times spending about 15k each time. A well aware OBC would not able to shell that amount of time and money to get into top college. Now my friend gets a foreign MBA with a wider exposure whereas a well aware OBC gets into a good Indian MBA college at max. Your 95%ile well aware OBC student has this immense pressure of can I leave a job and go for a 2 year MBA programme. Nothing comes close to that pressure. He did not chose to get 95%ile instead of 99%ile. 95%ile is what he is capable of, he gives all that he has got and hopes to get into a top college. It's not lack of effort it's lack of capability which depends on various factors.
And your suggestions in the second comment are impractical and doesn't work at all. Heights of ignorance in saying that money compensates decades old exploitation. Brother, it's not money, it's education that has the capability to compensate centuries old caste discrimination. Let me tell you, reserved category is not crying over facilities but striving to gain a respectable position in the society. Financial help is not going to get his parents, grand parents, relatives well educated and knowledgeable and well settled. What you think as :P is plight of the people who were victims of centuries old caste system. Go erase the caste system and come back and then analyse the reservation system in India.
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